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我在永利poker table上了一課

我在永利poker table上了一課

星期一我和家人去了澳門過夜一晚,看了大家的意見之後,終於夜晚去了永利嘗試第一次在賭場玩poker。去到的時候我打算坐10 / 20的桌子,但當時仍有3個人排隊,我排第4個,等了半個鐘頭仍沒有什麼變動,本來打算去星際嘗試碰運氣,怎料那時那個主管說我可以入桌了~~

不過,上課的時間現在才開始,因為我一開始只打算用最少buy in入場 - $400(最多$2,000),坐到桌子之後,就發覺原來「子彈」太少,對於什麼牌都未能好好運用。(我曾玩過$1 / $2的牌本,最少buy in$100,如比例的話我只buy in了$40......)人家raise到$100時,我已經要考慮call唔call......根本沒有「Raise的話事權」可言......雖然有一鋪嬴了...不過要同人分......因為大家都是同一手牌......

最後的一鋪,我手持紅心A、磚Q

未開牌時我Call了$20之後,下手raise至$120,我想了想,call了。

之後挀了紅心Q、紅心10、磚5

包括我在內只有3-5個player,之後有人bet 了$250,我手上只得$2xx的籌碼,最後只好叫了「all in」,把所有籌碼押上了......

第4隻挀了隻紅心J

包括我在內只有3個player,之後有人bet 了$500,另一個人選擇了FOLD,那時只餘下我和另一個Player。那時他把手上的牌開了:

他:(忘記了)Q,(忘記了)J

那時他手上算起來已來J、Q 2 Pairs,我則只得Q pair,我只好寄望於第五隻牌,我「叫」緊四種牌:

1.A,那我就有Q、A 2 Pairs
2.K,那我就有10、J、Q、K、A,順子
3.紅心(求其1隻),那我就有紅心花5隻
4.紅心K,那我就有齊紅心10、J、Q、K、A,同花順

那時出面個POT大約有$1,200左右啦.......最後挀出來的牌就是......葵花8......當然係輸左了......我最後只開了一隻Q,另一隻沒有開到......這時我身旁那位說國語,大約23-28歲的男子問我:「你那張是不是A?」我只是搖搖頭,沒有回答他的問題,之後就離開了......

之後,我老爸在我賭博的時候亦有觀察(因為他未知我賭的到底是什麼),他說當我只拿了$400坐在桌子時,我對面的外國人立即「O嘴」起來,(其實我旁邊那位國語男子都有和他身旁的朋友說:「怎樣搞?!只有三百多塊?」)就連桌子另一邊的中年阿叔們看了看之後,都有著「看低了」的表情看著我,感覺完全被看低了......因為桌面的人全都有千多二千元籌碼在桌子上。最後得到了教訓是......手上必須有足夠的「籌碼」,才可在賭場玩得起這個賭博遊戲......

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手上必須有足夠的「籌碼」,才可在賭場玩得起這個賭博遊戲......
???
四百唔係足夠啦咩...
如果deep stake呢局唔會輸多啲咩??
你有二千係手..你敢turn bet 嗎?你又會bet幾多
呢局輸運..邊個都走唔到
top pairs a屎 kicker

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playing short and not knowing what to is very bad.  short stack is a very high variance play, not knowing how to play it properly is even worst

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我都覺得$400 buy-in 無問題, 話晒都第一次賭場玩poker. 當然要平衡個risk.
我第一次去永利玩時也只是 $500 buy-in; 最後也可以cash out 三千多元啊.

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good

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You just got unlucky.  Nothing you could do.  Better to raise pre-flop and then push on the flop.  Playing short stack needs more skill.  You need to learn how to compensate for it given the better odds your opponents get in drawing.

Pushing 20 BB with JQs is just dumb.  What do you think you will get called by?  You got lucky.  That ain't skill.  Making the right play is skill, winning since you got lucky is just luck.  Don't see how you can play like this and be a winning player in the long run.  FWIW, I think best to limp in and try to see a flop cheaply.  You can flop huge but if you don't, can always get away.  Key here for me is controlling size of pot.  Assuming you are playing for some time, 20BB simply doesn't allow one to raise and play position (unless you are rebuying back to 20BB frequently).  Dont' forget, it is 15% (or more) of your stack!

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'The correct play would have been open-raise in LP (or MP) or limp behind in LP coz it flops well.

Agree/disagree'

Definitely disagree...you might want to see a cheap flop in the cut-off or button, but to open-raise with JQ is akin to giving money away when you have a short stack.

Its highly unlikely that you will get the blinds to call with a worse hand, and once they called, its also unlikely that you will be able to get rid of them if they have anything.  Also, what do you do to a reraise?  The risk and return ratio is just not there when you have a short stack and JQ.

If anything, short stack cash games are the most easy to play, IF you play it right.  Just remember not to try anything fancy (you haven't got the chips to do so), bet strongly with premium hands preflop, and dump everything else.

Limping and calling with AQ preflop is highly question play when you have 20BBs.  Either dump it or better still, raise it up and try to get it heads-up preflop.

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playing short and not knowing what to is very bad.  short stack is a very high variance play, not knowing how to play it properly is even worst

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good

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'The correct play would have been open-raise in LP (or MP) or limp behind in LP coz it flops well.

Agree/disagree'

Definitely disagree...you might want to see a cheap flop in the cut-off or button, but to open-raise with JQ is akin to giving money away when you have a short stack.

Its highly unlikely that you will get the blinds to call with a worse hand, and once they called, its also unlikely that you will be able to get rid of them if they have anything.  Also, what do you do to a reraise?  The risk and return ratio is just not there when you have a short stack and JQ.

If anything, short stack cash games are the most easy to play, IF you play it right.  Just remember not to try anything fancy (you haven't got the chips to do so), bet strongly with premium hands preflop, and dump everything else.

Limping and calling with AQ preflop is highly question play when you have 20BBs.  Either dump it or better still, raise it up and try to get it heads-up preflop.

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